[quote=Magic Magnum] I ended up getting into a mini-debate on a facebook group. Basically the original picture was this. Where I basically asked "Why would you want those pics from a random girl, when you can google professional ones by models online?". For a bit the only answers I got were those like "It's not the same" and "Just cause". With no actually argument or logical point behind it. So this got me wondering, what is it about the human mind that get's joy/pleasure over obtaining something that you needed to have influence and control over someone to get? Even if there is a better alternative you can get without using anyone else to get it? What about people here? Would you simply go after which ever was the best source of what you wanted, or would you go the route where you used others to get it, because something about influencing others brings you pleasure? [/quote] I think it's less a case of pleasure in influencing someone directly and more the old addage about how things are so much sweeter if you worked for them. A "satisfaction" in having earned it versus just used Google 101.