[quote=Magic Magnum] It could be the case.But would you think there's still some element of having used someone else to get it? Or for other situations unlike the one above do you find some people simply like exercising control over others? [/quote] Oh there are definitely people who simply like exercising control over others. I'd even go so far as to say many such people exist. Look at any field where someone is put in a position of power over others, from Company Executives to Military Generals to your wife-beater wearing actual wife-beaters. It comes down to the "human herd mentality" idea. Some people are sheeple, others are wolves who fancy being shepherds.