Erhm 2 things yyup 2 I'm in a good mood today. Juan) Keyguy, I thought you were only supposed to say {I SHOOT U WIT DIS} and then the person you're shooting at decides the damage. You just went ahead and decided the damage, like a ship the same size as the ships you're firing at is easily way more powerful ;-; Too) I must remind that Seeder Ships are giant; they are [b]easily[/b] the size of a flagship, and that they were ALL AROUND THE PLANET. THat means they aren't grouped; grouping together just makes you easier to hit. You'd be swarmed by nearly a thousand ships that are giant. There would be no space; they wouldn't be moving about randomly. They were specifically targetting the ships, sending out mines that'll shred a ship, and accelerating straight through others. Moving into one fleet will just bring destruction, not victory. Seeder Ships are ramming ships, and need to be relatively close to use their mines; that means targets that are very spaced apart are very hard to eliminate. That also means bunching up into a single group will bring great happiness and victory for them. That also means that, should the posts stay the same, you just blew up a ship inside your own fleet, where the depressurization would launch ship fragments in all directions, which would damage even more ships. so yeeee.