[quote=Doivid] I have no idea what OT is like here, but I found it kind of lacking back in the other guild. I noticed toward the end we had more productive debates here than there. Could be all different now for all I know, however. [/quote] OT recovered some of its better voices, since the crash, but it also lost a lot of really good ones too. Lately browsing an OT debate feels like jumping between an ice bath and a hot tub.... you'll get a great response, and then second later you want to bash your keyboard in with your brains. Then some people (myself included) just got inexplicably bitchier, which, maybe because we all took a break for a month or two there, now we're all really feeling it even more than we would. For all I know that's been a gradual slide into oblivion, but it feels like it all hit at once.