[quote=Kadaeux] Those are called "Squid" and are much smaller ;)Kraken are larger than Galleons, Galleons also can't go down rivers. :pQuite right. If you choose to begin with no coast or navy the points "go to waste" but as time goes on and, say, you took a coastal province with (again example) a small city, say a River Delta onto the Ocean, then that city could begin making warships for you. These rules only cover how a nation begins, as time goes on your nations will grow noticeably. [/quote] Damn, it could've become really, really fun to try and cross one of my rivers. Also once you get the chance mate, I've finished with all my stat points so if you could have a check that'd be great :)