I'll throw my hat in.
Edit: Scratch that. Will not have time to compete.
Edit: Scratch that. Will not have time to compete.
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@Mahz
Not particularly. Did want to address something.
This here, it hit me, as to why there has been such a problem here. There are alternate standards, set between you and everyone else here.
See, I had a character here who could match any force leveled against her, much like the Beardforce does for Gonad, but when I tried to apply with her -- as seen here here -- I was told that that same power was broken because she could scale without limit... And yet here you are doing far more than that, scaling your power instantly at a glance, with no one batting an eye.
DLL was told his character's ability to replicate the powers of others after thorough observation was too powerful for the TZ tournament, and yet the Beardforce is able to so thoroughly analyze the abilities of Gonad's foes to blow through any and all of their defenses, somehow with sheer power alone. Tez believes that El Rey was also on the road to rejection for a power scaling ability but never even got a response despite submitting one of the first profiles.
My initial defense was ruled untenable because I had failed to list a specific, real world martial art from which I took it (not a new, unlisted supernatural power, but an application of Tai Chi)... if that's how it works so be it, but as others have said, we use our profiles as guidelines, within common sense, where here they serve as an end-all, be-all.
The frustration of that new limitation coupled with the double standards in acceptable abilities indeed the starting point of frustration, and the reason I also refused to budge. Never before in my roleplaying career have I encountered such an insane ability that worked without observation, with information that is either literally unavailable anywhere else but the character profile, or else ignoring that information, no matter how ridiculous the outcome. For that reason I erred on what I felt was common sense, and adjusted accordingly.
I'm in no mood to continue this battle under any circumstances, either way. My vote would be to strike the whole mess and be done with it. If that doesn't sit then do what you will with it.
Not particularly. Did want to address something.
We both have our groupies, our home teams, and I should think that between your guys and my guys, there's some kind of gap in communication, like what occured in the tournament thread resulting in the Luchalliance leaving en masse. I had a similar experence with Melon, and it took a half year, perhaps longer, for us to resolve our differences.
Why exactly is this? Are there alternate standards, customs? I do not know, but I try to keep an open mind. Try, at least.
This here, it hit me, as to why there has been such a problem here. There are alternate standards, set between you and everyone else here.
See, I had a character here who could match any force leveled against her, much like the Beardforce does for Gonad, but when I tried to apply with her -- as seen here here -- I was told that that same power was broken because she could scale without limit... And yet here you are doing far more than that, scaling your power instantly at a glance, with no one batting an eye.
DLL was told his character's ability to replicate the powers of others after thorough observation was too powerful for the TZ tournament, and yet the Beardforce is able to so thoroughly analyze the abilities of Gonad's foes to blow through any and all of their defenses, somehow with sheer power alone. Tez believes that El Rey was also on the road to rejection for a power scaling ability but never even got a response despite submitting one of the first profiles.
My initial defense was ruled untenable because I had failed to list a specific, real world martial art from which I took it (not a new, unlisted supernatural power, but an application of Tai Chi)... if that's how it works so be it, but as others have said, we use our profiles as guidelines, within common sense, where here they serve as an end-all, be-all.
The frustration of that new limitation coupled with the double standards in acceptable abilities indeed the starting point of frustration, and the reason I also refused to budge. Never before in my roleplaying career have I encountered such an insane ability that worked without observation, with information that is either literally unavailable anywhere else but the character profile, or else ignoring that information, no matter how ridiculous the outcome. For that reason I erred on what I felt was common sense, and adjusted accordingly.
I'm in no mood to continue this battle under any circumstances, either way. My vote would be to strike the whole mess and be done with it. If that doesn't sit then do what you will with it.
Suppose we'll just keep talking past each other then.
I'm sorry. You resigned in the middle of combat. That's also a loss.
And my provocations are petty... from the one slinging classics like logic twisting trash.
You're already in the mud, too late to take the high ground.
And you're still dodging me.
And my provocations are petty... from the one slinging classics like logic twisting trash.
You're already in the mud, too late to take the high ground.
And you're still dodging me.
@Doc Doctor
By the way, Doc, what's it called when you flee from the battlefield in the wake of a ready opponent, like Pater did from Starfall?
Finished thread or not, that's a fucking defeat, sir.
By the way, Doc, what's it called when you flee from the battlefield in the wake of a ready opponent, like Pater did from Starfall?
Finished thread or not, that's a fucking defeat, sir.
You NEVER said it was a condition to have no judge. All you said was that you'd have "preferred not to have one". 'Prefer' as a word does not imply the implementation of a strict condition, you logic twisting trash.
It was a stated preference, one you never denied, specifically seeing as it was made in direct response to Pollen weighing in.
If you had a problem with that concern, you were more than free to do so at any point before the start of the fight, you sanctimonious ass. If you were never going to honor my request you should have made it perfectly clear from the start, and while prefer does not imply the implementation if a strict condition, common fucking sense states if you tell a waiter you'd prefer a booth to a table they're either going to lead you at a booth or explicitly tell you they can't. For your failure to object to my request you led me to the booth.
Wasn't describing my post, was dissecting contradictions in the Beardforce as you attempted to describe it to Rilla.
So does the Beardforce allow Gonad to match his opponent's power? Does it stack on top of that power and multiply his physical strength at the same time? Your answers are changing and the different answers produce radically different results depending on what you go with.
If you are referring to a narrow focus on melee combat to the exclusion of other techniques then no, he is not a melee specialist either.
A 5th Degree Black Belt in Judo doesn't magically lose their martial arts knowledge simply because they one day take up archery.
But that's neither here nor there, seeing as you still haven't responded to my earlier assertion: you never denied my request for this fight to go unjudged, which was a condition for joining this fight, the same as my so-called tacit acceptance of everything in your sheet.
So does the Beardforce allow Gonad to match his opponent's power? Does it stack on top of that power and multiply his physical strength at the same time? Your answers are changing and the different answers produce radically different results depending on what you go with.
If you are referring to a narrow focus on melee combat to the exclusion of other techniques then no, he is not a melee specialist either.
A 5th Degree Black Belt in Judo doesn't magically lose their martial arts knowledge simply because they one day take up archery.
But that's neither here nor there, seeing as you still haven't responded to my earlier assertion: you never denied my request for this fight to go unjudged, which was a condition for joining this fight, the same as my so-called tacit acceptance of everything in your sheet.
He doesn't negate supernatural defenses, he powers through them with his glass cannon-esque equalisation power.
I have multiple characters with scaling powers... that's not what equalization is. When my characters match the force of an opponent's energy, or strength, they deadlock.
If two cars of the exact same mass at the exact same speed collide, they're both stopped dead in the collision.
If the Beardforce is what allows your physical strength to match that power, none of your blows would ever get through. Only if it stacks doubly on top of that strength would it ever work.
If the Beardforce 'matched' the force or a ghost you were punching, it would produce exactly nothing. No force at all. Same thing for punching an abstract concept. There is no "equivalent" to something that is intangible or abstract. The equivalent of intangible is intangible. The equivalent of abstract is abstract. Your equalization power would have to negate, literally turn it into the opposite of what it is for you to hit whatever it is, or else Gonad's fist doesn't touch anything. That or else it instantly copies whatever Gonad is facing to make him intangible, or abstract, which it again, does without observation.
@Rilla
Well, apparently it's a powerup that allows Gonad to instantly become as powerful as you are, without fail, or any information. It allows him to instantly match your character's full power, no observation required.
It also allows him to fly, ignore any supernatural defenses you might try against it, match your speed, mass, and durability, while also making every physical strike he makes completely unsurvivable.
So while it's sold as an equalization tool it exists solely to stack the odds in Gonad's favor no matter who he's facing.
Last part was me being facetious.
Well, apparently it's a powerup that allows Gonad to instantly become as powerful as you are, without fail, or any information. It allows him to instantly match your character's full power, no observation required.
It also allows him to fly, ignore any supernatural defenses you might try against it, match your speed, mass, and durability, while also making every physical strike he makes completely unsurvivable.
So while it's sold as an equalization tool it exists solely to stack the odds in Gonad's favor no matter who he's facing.
Last part was me being facetious.
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