[quote=Ayleth] Totally have to ask... Is Patella [pat-ell-a] or [pat-ay-a] ? For some reason, I seem to want to pronounce the double l's as a y [/quote] Wikipedia says it's pronounced [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_constellations]pəˈtɛlə[/url] --- Also: [hider=I made a drawing of Ciskel][img=http://oi58.tinypic.com/atxn6g.jpg][/hider]