[quote=LeeRoy]
I want you to re-read under what pretenses I accepted your character.

Then I want you to sit back and read what I'm about to say, because I'm not going to say it again. 

Vehicles are part of the setting. Yes, they may fire. Yes, they may present a sense of urgency and be considered a 'stage hazard.' 
But they are not the central concept of the roleplay.
Ships exist simply to enhance the setting by;

A: Pushing the plot along with a sense of urgency.
B: Transporting characters from place to place.
C: Representing the challenge of power based on the immensity and number of their ships.
D: Being a hazard to avoid.
E: Being a location to do character to character combat on. 

Saying that it is 'moronic' or 'immersion breaking' is you personally not understanding what this roleplay is about.

I am growing frustrated with this notion of: "Vehicle hatred." And especially the way you are reacting to something that I told you on day one of you being in this roleplay. It is not a hatred of vehicles. It is a well justified frustration that vehicles aren't intended to be the central focus of the combat. 

When you claim that your vehicles are balanced, I grow even more frustrated. 

As your ship can accelerate to Mach 10 in 40 seconds.
Your ship can orbitally bombard any character in one turn with explosives that are sufficient enough to level more than what the bomb in Hiroshima did.
It can turn invisible.
It is the second largest thing in this roleplay to Green's mech.

Not a single character can compete with your ship. Not a single person.

And on top of it all you're acting like you're some kind of martyr, some kind of victim. You're simply not understanding what I told you from day one.

Vehicles are part of the setting.
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Heh

[quote=So Boerd]
You are making statements, not explanations. 

I recognize now Garrett is horrendously OP, as the God types like Raptormam's char are inactive and he was made to counter those. However, he needs to return to Earth to advance the story and allow me to introduce my next character. Do you see a better way to get back to Earth than following those people who know how to use portals? Because I don't. 

Here is what I mean by "immersion breaking". Why in the hell, would anyone who has this immensely powerful ship, ever go down ever to brawl with some punk on the ground? Better to not have them at all. 

You're perfectly illustrating my belief in your irrational vehicle hate. Suppose Beowulf of Titan had treads instead of legs, and a driver. Is it now not a character? Would you have denied it if it had treads and a driver? Can you show me a quote by Skallagrim saying vehicles don't belong with characters?

Garrett's "ship", which is really my terminological laziness, is much smaller than a 747. It is half the size, in fact. It is a plane which can go into space. If/when a God shows up, I will bring him from retirement.
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Did you ever consider that at some point in this massive OOC it was dicussed and you didn't see it? Did you ever consider that it might've been mentioned elsewhere (PMs or an IM client of some sort). There is also a certain reasoning to it. Unless the vehicle in question, be it a ship, a car, or a tank, has an immense amount of weaponry and ridiculous maneuverability and/or armor it would not stand a chance against a smaller, more mobile, and potentially devastatingly powerful individual.

That last thing "smaller, mobile, and potentially powerful individual," applies to most, if not all the characters in this RP, with the possible exception of low tier characters.

So I'd say it is less a hatred, and more the sheer fact that it would, in most circumstances, be unfair on one end. Either the vehicle would be too potent, or it wouldn't have enough maneuverability to handle the other characters in the RP, even those in the same tier.

Also, this isn't just based on speculation, I had a conversation about it with LeeRoy on skype a while back. I asked him about the ship thing sheerly out of curiousity. Honestly, I think you don't get an explanation because he's tired of hearing you whine about it, which is what it appears you are doing.

Incessantly. I really don't mean to be insulting when I say that, I'm just telling you how you appear to anyone else looking at the situation.
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On another note, I have to [I]slightly[/I] dispute LeeRoy, and you for that matter, in saying that Garret's ship would be a challenge to Arkaeis. It is not impossible, or implausible that he could face the thing on fairly equal terms. I have justified reasons for saying this. So why not send Garret to Arkaeis? Perhaps he would be willing to help him use portals? Or they could have a bout, he [B]is[/B] looking for one afterall. I mean, he pretty much attacked the place. Granted, I don't know where Garret is atm, so I can't say if that is possible, thus it is entirely up to you.