[quote=GravityFlux] Nah, I meant that in a metaphorical sense, not literal, although I may have harboured hopes of going spacey.Of course, I mean this "democracy" to be capitalist to the most and held back in most human rights areas due to red tape, corruption, and a total lack of industrialist ethics [/quote] So, like, plantation-system slavery? I'm trying to figure out if by "industrial ethics" you mean modern factory industry, or traditional agrarian economy. And a lack of ethics there would probably end up giving rise to slavery.