[quote=Titanic] Do it this way, put the player controlled ones under leave of absence, if they pm that they quit or don't respond in 1 month, open their nation up. They would still be conquer able but the new players have to expect a rebellion when the original owner appears. [/quote] K I'll try and thanks for the advice I might post tomorrow because I am currently using an IPhone right now and I'm not very used to type on an IPhone.i think I'm too lighthearted to declare a war in a nation but I think a rebellion will sprung up in my nation instead and the kingdom will do everything to defeat them.