[quote=KnightShade] I understand more what you mean now, the logical leap that eludes me is them deciding there is something about Nat alone that warrants them declaring they are like him. Randumb people in a vacuum with whatever it is Nat does, I see them as more just acting like him in that scenario than drawing conscious similarities. And we are both talking about how new people come to associate themselves primarily with Nat, I think.I really don't want to argue with you though Drakel, I don't mind about getting the last word in so you can do that if you like, so long as we can agree to disagree on it. [/quote] I'm glad to see that you understand what I'm saying. As we all know I suck at putting my ideas out properly though I also see where you're coming from, and I agree... It completely baffles me on WHY they made that decicion to act like NAT above all people but at the same time it does make a bit of sense since Nat is the most seen member, which to some must mean popular (which isn't half wrong either)... but in the end it's the willingness to CONTINUE such that just gives me a headache and breaks all forms of logic imo. I don't completely argue with you, you're right on many levels and as I said it all depends on what type of variables that we are using. So neither of us are right or wrong unless we are looking at specific variables. So in the end it's all good Knight. :)