So I'm really liking the replies going here on both sides, unlike on the original place this debate was on I'm actually seeing decent arguments from the side in favor of fighting back and not things that simply boil down to "I'm angry and want an excuse to punch people". Though I feel I should clarify the 1st post a bit, by Parent abusing a child I'm not suggesting the child fighting back/beating up the parent. I'm suggesting say you're a third person witnessing the child abuse take place? Would you step in and beat up that parent, or you would protect/save the child in another way? ------------------- Now sadly the past 2 days I ended getting overfilled with stuff which made me lose track of this thread until now... and it's damn late now and I have to wake up early for plans tomorrow so I don't got time for a long response now (though I did read everyone's reply). I'll come back later with a full blown response. Just a few notes I want to say though for now: -> When people in the old debate argued beating up an abusive adult prevented abuse they meant to the point of say breaking their arms in two so they have no means to beat the child up with. Would anyone here suggest such a response to abusive parents? -> Jorick, don't ever worry about sound too barbaric. Your bluntness and willingness to be honest and call shit out for what it is, is one of the things I like about you so much! :P -> Mostly what I've seen here (Majority, Jorick was an exception here) was people either going "You need violence to solve these problems" with no mention of other means or people going "You need words, understanding, love, therapy etc. to stop bullying. Violence makes it worse". Now, although I mainly agree with the latter point (I'll go more into why when I come back later and give people proper replies) do people here feel that there is more of a balance we need to reach? Or is it more strictly do violence or avoid violence?