[quote=mdk]No. If balance and control and good-natured teaching and discipline are insufficient to maintain order, then the sum of human accomplishment throughout history has failed to reach this individual. There can be no mercy in this situation. You can't 'just shoot him a little.' Cavemen and clubs. And if the offender comes out the other side more-or-less intact, then you can try to teach him again.To withhold a righteous fury is not mercy. By depriving the criminal of the consequences of his actions, you have doomed him to repeat his miscreant ways. ....and slowly, I'm gathering that this is actually a thread about high school again, in which case you should pretty much ignore all this as 'real world shit,' and return to classroom discussion. The learning process is part of the equation here, one I'm taking as a given; if the subject is 'while you're still in school,' then that process isn't complete yet. I obviously don't think we should be smashing 9th graders' faces with rocks when they sneak out of detention.[/quote] I think since most physical bullying is experience by people in High School that just happens to be where we draw most of our experience and conclusions from. So, considering that your argument here is specifically aimed at people who are adults I can better understand the logic and reasoning behind it. However, I'd still argue that even adults learn, and we already have a system largely how you suggest called prison. People get beaten and raped there all the time regardless of the crime. But many people come out just as bad or worse than they were before.