@ImportantNobody - I think what Skalla and Seed is talking about is the good old days of established Arena combat. The sort of thing where your rivals and competitors are so good that the only way to cope is to strive to surpass them. The sort of epic everyone-knows-your-name-if-you-defeat-that-one-guy-you-damn-legend-you sort of thing that can't help but leave people in a comatose of awe. That is, if I got the general jizt of it :) @Skalla - I miss the proper tier system. It was so neat. Seems to have vanished from the interwebs, as far as I can tell. It is with regret that I tell you that I have not heard of any of the mighty warriors you've mentioned, as I kept myself in the high-mid tiers while learning the ropes. I remember seeing this one guy over at Rp-Gateway pulling the coolest Tjekov's gun maneouver I've seen to date. It was simple, but elegant. He was fighting this one dude in a mecha suit, and was horribly outgunned as well as severely wounded from previous fights (this was the finale of a tournament, if I recall correctly), and he mentioned holding a grenade in one of the very first posts. Then he proceeded to get his ass kicked for several posts, before dropping the grenade which exploded right in the face of the mecha dude. If I recall correctly, the guy with the grenade got shot to pieces right afterwards.. but man, it was inspiring as hell, there is no way I can re-tell the tale in a way that does it justice.. I think I had a point, but I forgot about it half-way into the write-up.