[quote=Legend] Ugh. Part of the thing is that they don't really have anything to do to punish me, so it makes me feel worse. I'm even taller than my dad, so poking my chest with his finger doesn't really accomplish much, and I feel terrible. But they have no idea that I feel terrible about it, which makes them think I don't care, which makes me feel even worse. And my goal of any discussion/argument is to reach a conclusion or truth at the end, and I recognize that the best course of action would be to shut up, but I can't do that. Whether it be my nature, personality, or whatever, something makes me keep talking when something they said is invalid, and then the situation gets even worse. I don't even know if an apology would mean anything. [/quote] I literally had to train myself to shut up. When my dad believes I did something, and I didn't, and I tell him the truth, he refuses to believe me. So whem shutting up isn't an option, the est thing for me to do is lie to him saying I did it because he won't listen unless it's what he wants to hear. But I have the impulse to do what you do every waking second of my life, but my impulse to do what's best in th end is greater.