[quote=mattmanganon] My point is that Ed Woods work has stood the test of time. And Michael Bay isn't totally shite, I mean, Bad Boys was a good popcorn flick. And if you stop thinking of the Transformers films as films based on the Transformers franchise and judge them as a film about giant robots, they're also good popcorn flicks.My point is that 41 years after he died, we are still talking about his work. I don't like what Michael Bay does, but I still respect him because he has passion.And Uwe Boll... I don't really know what to think of him... Don't get me wrong, he has made some really enjoyably bad films, but recently, he's just been making bland films, like "In the Name of the King" and its sequel. Uwe Bolls has got better as a Director in recent years, and I respect that... But the problem is that he has graduated from "Enjoyably Bad Director" to "Middle of the Road Director"In the end, what I really mean is that, if 41 years after I die, millions of people are talking about my works of art, I'll be a very happy man. [/quote] Except I'm pretty sure most everyone else here wants to be remembered for more than kitsch value. If you're aiming for this kind of quality, fine, and if you're happy being mediocre for the sake of creating that specific kind of value, fine, but remember that this is a group project and you're part of a whole. Play your own game as much as you want on your own terms, but the way you're wringing this drags everyone else into that ballpark and that just isn't fair to them. Sorry if I'm sounding like a pretentious cunt for this, but frankly? This kind of attitude pisses me off outside of certain select situations and circumstances, and this isn't one of those situations and circumstances.