[quote=So Boerd] I didn't ask you to compare the justice of their causes, a thread unto itself, I asked you to compare their mutual hatred. You can disagree with someone, even fervently, and not hate them. [/quote] And my response was the simple "those people are assholes". You get them under every flag, in every place, following every creed. Some people are just not going to approach arguments and disagreements with mutual respect... EDIT: That isn't the point, though. Those people are the exception, not the rule. You get a few sour grapes in every bunch, but the VAST majority of supporters and detractors of the VAST majority of issues don't hate each other at all, and are reasonable human beings.