"Strength isn't everything, you know!" Roshi said, as if reading T'charrl's thoughts. "It's helpful for a leader to be strong, but you need to be wise and have a kind-heart. If you let the power define who you are then you'll be corrupt and be twisted evil." With this boy however the hermit didn't feel a need to go on a lecture of responsibility, he certainly sounded to have an understanding. This two energy business was proving to be puzzling, they needed to find a way to differentiate the two. Prompting T'charrl then to use only that other source Roshi watched with great interest as he easily gathered some, making it look like child's play. Now if they could just get him to use Ki with the same degree of ease then they would be perfectly fine. "So you understand that energy perfectly fine, it's Ki which is alien to you." the old man mused, chucking lightly at his choice of words. "I see, well then. You're aware of your Ki, and you seem to know how to draw forth energy. So go right ahead and try what you just did, only make sure you use your Ki this time." Seemed like a simple enough task, certainly so if T'charrl knew where the energy he was searching for was. "A trick with Ki," Roshi continued, holding up a finger, "is to breathe while you try to summon it forth. The calmer you are the easier it is, initially anyways. So try taking some deep breaths before you take a shot at it."

Takeshi was certain no holes were going to be blasted in him anytime soon, if only he could convince Shu of that. Obviously using his older brother as a target wasn't going to pan out, so it was back to square one again. What a shame too, he'd thought the water explanation was pretty darn ingenious. Still certain that Shu needed examples Takeshi went about doing precisely what he was trying to teach his brother, slowing it to a pace that hopefully he could tell what was going on. "Making it come back...? Well, you have to push it to get out right? When you were moving it towards your hands before you had to think about it and focus to make it go there, yeah? If you stop it before it gets to your hands and pull it back in then it won't leak out like before. You just want to keep doing that to make it move." Pretty lousy explanation admittedly, but Takeshi wasn't sure how much more simple he could make it. The water analogy had probably been their best bet and all that ended up with was Shu leaking Ki out of his fingertips. 

"Hehe... Water huh? Well yeah, I guess it feels like that! Keep it going!" After the bit of counseling Shu had gotten right back to the grindstone and already he looked to be making progress. If he said he could feel it then Takeshi believed him, elated they had made a breakthrough. Since they really needed to focus on what was happening the older boy stared intently at his brother's hands and arms, following the movement of his Ki. It was like little currents inside Shu's body, and by sensing them he could almost see them. It was a bit shaky at some points, almost like rapids in a river, but sure enough the little guy was getting it down. Takeshi's eyes widened for a second when a sudden spike in Shu's palms nearly resulted in a blast, yet he quickly reeled that in and kept the flow going. Letting it go on for a few moments more the Saiyan smiled approvingly, nodding his head and giving Shu a thumbs up. "You've got it Shu, that's exactly what you want!" It could do with a little refining of course, but already he had gotten it down pat. Now, did they want to jump ahead and try flying, or blasting? "How are you feeling about it buddy? Think you want to practice some more?"