[quote=ActRaiserTheReturned]You responded to my post without a quote. . . that's why I only posted just now. Okay, so the problem is that "Cosmic Rules" these are moral things. For one thing, God is the Law-Giver, he is perfect in both logic and in empathy and love. . . such a Law Giver is perfect. A Cosmic Law is something like Jesus'es need for self-sacrifice on the Cross for us to get to Heaven, or that sin has to be punished, that sort of thing. Israel had to do things which were both eternal and temporal, but to do them, even if they were temporary, was moral, and not to do them was immoral. Israel still has the Eternal Law of God's promise on it, that God will bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse them.[/quote] Okay, so Cosmic laws are moral things. God perfect because he's perfect... This extends to the state of Israel... ... But this still doesn't really clarify it. What defines a cosmic law and what does not define a cosmic law? There are many, many laws in the Bible, so how can you easily tell them apart? [quote=So Boerd]What good has come to you of atheism that can't be replicated by other means?[/quote] To be honest if [i]I[/i] was Christian it probably wouldn't be a good thing, I don't really have the err... Luxury of being able to believe in something quite so fantastical and remain a stable person. Atheism is a natural end point to logical skepticism: If I can't prove it's physically real, I cannot believe in it. This has been more helpful for keeping me sane and stable than anything else in my life really.