[quote=KatherinWinter] I have to disagree. Nothing I have read about Lucifer indicates any of that. God doesn't give up on anyone. I don't know about the vessel part. If he didn't need one why would he choose to take one? [/quote] Hmm, I see your point actually. That does make sense Katherin, I just wouldn't think that Lucifer is bound to God. On the vessel part, I think he would take her as a a vessel because how else would he just walk around?