Reason these were late.

My last response for Primez was almost immediately after his post.
However, when I went to send it the Guild crashed so I went back left the post waiting to be sent again for when it was back up.

Got distracted with playing Rust so when I finally did notice the Guild was back up (hours later) I just immediately posted the reply, not bothering to read the other posts until I got off of rust (which is now).

[quote=ImANargleHunter]
You can't argue religion with science or science with religion because they are two entirely different things.As much as you like to seem informed you are .What's nice about religion is that it gives you moral guidelines. Some people should not be left to decide right or wrong on their own.
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Both try to give answers to the world, the reason we exist etc.
Science has yet to find proof of religion, so they don't except it as something that should be taught to people as fact when there's also a scientific explanation for it.
Closest you can get is "Science is right, but guided by God's hand". But even then, there's still the claim God exists that needs to be proven first. And with most religions you can open their Bible and find something in it that would argue against Science.

So in another words, they're two different and conflicting answers for the same thing.
Also, if you need religion to have morals... That says a lot about your character.
Atheists also have morals, religion is not needed in the slightest to have them.
Also depending on what religion you look at those morals would allow/approve the killing of towns, the kidnapping and raping of virgin women, slavery etc.
And to state "That's misinterpreting the Bible" is dodging a bullet and known as a logical fallacy.

[quote=idlehands]
Oh...you're an atheist. Formally religious. This all makes everything clear. Yeah. It's different sides of the same coin. I'd say it takes faith to believe there is nothing out there. You can't prove or disprove the existence of a deity, in whatever shape or form.Fuck. I'm being drawn into my own pet peeve. 
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Science doesn't claim there's nothing out there.
In fact in claims there is quite a ton out there, we just don't really know what exactly to expect once we're there yet.
Unless if you mean Religion, in which case it depends on the Religion.

And although you can't prove or disprove a deity, something still does need to be proven before it can properly be treated as fact.

[quote=Shy]
Seriously though I've tried very hard to stay out of the religion debate. Either get over it or move it into Off Topic people, thats where it belongs.
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Normally I would of.
But recently when conversations here have happen comparing spam to OT people have claimed that spam is capable of just as serious and intelligent if not more so than OT is.
So I figure why not put that to the test?

Note: I'm not purposely trying to start these discussions here. I'm just not shying down from them if they do so happen to appear.