[quote=Mammalia] The thought behind that is that the spirits of dishonesty, greed, etc. etc. are there to try and hinder the growth of the element, but are inadvertently responsible for the realisation of such. However, what you said does get to me a little. Maybe I could have it such that not all of the members of the group would be all-out cruel, or depressed. Some are closer to the right trait than others. What do you think? [/quote] so basically make it more believable no that would would be a terrible idea why would you think to make it believable pfffffft [quote=Mammalia] That unfortunately doesn't work with the gist of the story, as much as I like that idea. Basically, Gilda takes up Loyalty after the original elements accidentally destroy themselves, and she collects the shards of the other elements. She goes to the Tree of Harmony, finds out that she needs to go to a certain place, and she goes there. When there, she has to learn each trait in order for the shards to reassemble and the element to guide her to the bearer.Maybe the spirits won't affect all of those in each element's village. Instead, some are only partially affected, convinced by peer pressure, although not blatant. They're sometimes truthful, sometimes lying, depending on their thoughts. That'll also make it harder for Gilda to try and find the element without having to figure out the trait.Edit: It predestined. :P [/quote] so in other words give them depth yes that's a bad idea dont do that i mean who wants depth in their plot relevant characters [quote=Webmaster] But-but-but how could he have caused life from nonlife? Everyone knows that can't happen; even Tier Five couldn't do it! [/quote] I refer you to semen for a quick example. life comes from non life literally all the time.