[quote=Kill Bones] 5 also did weird shit with existing charactersLikeIn Soul Blade, Siegfried the annoying twat becomes Nightmare in his endingIn SC1 he is NightmareIn SC2 he is Nightmare and breaks free in his endingIn SC3 he is Siegfried again but he's not an annoying 16 year old now and Inferno (The spirit inside Soul Edge) takes control of Siegfried's old empty blue armor to make Nightmare a serpate entityIn SC4 Sieg and Nightmare have what is supposed to be their final battle, and both of their endings involve killing the other personBut SC5Man SC5 has some stupid shit. Not only are both Sieg and Nightmare alive and well, but Inferno takes another host instead of just staying as a disembodied suit of armor like he did for the last few games. And Nightmare's new host is Raphael but somehow Raphael's spirit is free and takes it's own body as a vampire that talks like a fucking twat and none of it makes sense because there's now two Raphaels running around and it's not like Inferno needed another host because for the previous two games it was made very clear that he no longer needed a human host and man this shit is really fucking dumb. AND ON TOP OF THAT, Siegfried is still a mopey cunt even though it's been like twenty years since anything bad has happened to him and he basically repeats his lines from SC4 even though there's nothing for him to be a emo twat about anymore.Shit's dumb. [/quote] I see. I knew Siegfried had something to do with Nightmare, but, knowing that he was Nightmare's previous body actually reasons out why they have the same moveset. Upon further investigation, apparently Nightmare's Suit of armor body (the one with the mouth for the shoulder, or gut) Was actually really unstable, and probably unsuitable for long periods of time... He probably DID need something to possess. Though whether that's actually the case or not remains to be seen (It was just wiki info).