[quote=DarkwolfX37] do both on scootstldr the restI refer you to the whole "sit down with them and some sort of counsiler-esk person and talk this exact shit outso dont have them get their element while in their home but on the journey at varying times like in danger for one and another just at a random point that takes some effort by the reader for them to figure out that it's fitting at that time [/quote] That's exactly what got thrown back in my face.