[quote=thorgili]
Ironically I am southern too and I believe in the cause of sovereignty personally sure I think slavery was bad any sort of discrimination is bad but also in most likelihood it would have gone away almost instantly after the war especially with the help of their military generals who where viewed as heroes to the south and many of them hated slavery ironically grant had slaves and even though sherman didn't own any he supported slavery. I also think Lincoln was a bit of a hypocrite for not going to congress about the declaration of war. I could see Lincoln's intentions which where admirable in his attempt to destroy slavery but that doesn't excuse the means.
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I actually saw a discussion that was really well thought out on alternatehistory.com that pretty much agreed Slavery could've survived (and probably would've) well into the 1890s or early 1900s... Seeing that discussion, I know I'm not going to be ending it immediately (though I will have wartime heroes push for it)... That is assuming I win, of course...