[quote=Magic Magnum]Like I said, spam's been claiming it's just as capable as OT to hold these discussions.So when one does accidentally start here, I haven't been bothering to move it now to test it.If people want to me take these back to OT from now on that's fine.Just don't be mad when I say "OT has more intelligent and serious discussions than spam" next time a Spam vs OT discussion pops up. [/quote] Atop what Shy said about it being less than welcome in a thread meant for something entirely different, which was spot on, there's also the matter of the approach. Starting a thread saying "hey guys, let's talk about religion, what are your beliefs or lack thereof and why do you think that way and blah blah blah" is cool, we've had that sort of thing in Spam and it remained civil for a nice number of pages before the inevitable derpstorm came along. Saying "my pet peeve is religion" is starting shit off by antagonizing religious people, which is the opposite of what you should be doing if you want to have a serious discussion. What you've done here is roughly equivalent to jumping into a random thread and saying "anyone who opposes abortion is retarded" and then complaining about it not spawning a civil discussion. Ever heard the saying "garbage in, garbage out"? It applies to conversations and discussions, start it with garbage and you're only going to get more garbage.