[quote=BattleShovel] not to mention that actual action and failure, or success will bind the hygrons unlike anything else, and I think we tried to move faster, we just didn't, which I suppose is a lesson learned. the first of many I'd imagine [/quote] Haha, oh definitely. But the Vygorns are waaaay outnumbered; we'll be fine if we can work off each other's attacks. Speaking of attacks, though, it sounds like you got them before they even reached the cave entrance. Cora and Beau are a few minutes out, after all. It would make way more sense if Beau was still trailing behind Cora, closer to the cave entrance and the other Elementals. And Battle, I had a question about this: [quote=BattleShovel] ... suddenly hearing a baritoned voice in his head Beau listened intently [i]Beau, this is Tugg, yes i can speak, we'll worry about that later, DO NOT let them enter the haven... [/quote] Did you specify Tugg could do that in your CS? Its unfair if you suddenly add that in. Cora's guardian can speak telepathically, but she has zero combat ability -- that was my trade-off.