I was going along this line of thought; Igrods have used void powers for a long time. In my nations history you'll see that even in igrod medieval times there were void users. its kind of just part of their race, their life force etc.if there were ever an issue with damaging effects, that's been corrected long ago. I thank you two for the accept. I'll wait patiently for keyguy to review my ns. thanks again!