[quote=Xzayler] Hm...*Xzayler blows air out of his mouth, letting a long hiss*Well, agh dammit. Could Runes be an option? Dolls with runes inscribed with Ancient Language and able to bring effects?EDIT: The thing is, if you mean Voodoo dolls like you chose a person and if you put the doll close to fire the person will feel heat and if you break the doll's arm off the guy's arm comes off? That's like, pro assassination from long distance. [/quote] Dat ain't how da voodoo works, mon. Seriously though, it's easy to limit the power of what can be done with voodoo dolls, and that aside you need to have a piece of the person / creature that you've worked in to the doll in order for it to work on them at all. The level that you're talking about is like the kind seen in the movie Stardust, which I agree is broken OP and not at all what I want to do- if my guy wanted to tear someone's arm off, he'd just go grab their arm and tear it off himself. He's a swamp Narven after all, they aren't exactly above brutality. The stuff I had in mind wasn't even so much about that kind of overpowered stuff though, but generally just dark spirit magic- kinda a much more religious / spiritual bent than truename magic. The idea with it is that the power doesn't come from the caster so much as the spirits that they invoke, and a caster being 'powerful' really just means that more spirits listen to them.