[quote=Host] Well wanna just do it for me?*Bats eyes and smiles* [/quote] -Svár- Oh, that's right, I forgot to give you an example. How silly of me. Usually I just visualise the patterns and then extract the chaos, but let's try that clock idea. *two clocks appear at different times, and then the hands start spinning rapidly in the same way a clock would, until the hands stop spinning and return to their original position* And now I've extracted the chaos. The longer you run whatever patterns you're visualising, the more power you get, or you can apply the patterns themselves to the chaos once it's out. Either way works.