[quote=whizzball1] -Svár- Good. Until you can visualise the patterns in your head and use them, you'll have to do things like making patterns out of clocks. *chuckles* When you figure it out, you'll feel the different chaos magic inside you. Come back to me when you feel that. If you need any more help, come back to me. [/quote] Do you have anything that doesn't necessarily require orderly chaos?