[quote=Omega] It was not in range of Russian BUKs and until this incident the most advanced SAM used by rebels has been the IGLA. It is doubted the rebels had the expertise to use a BUK. They would have likely used it earlier while they were being actively bombed if they had it and could use it. [/quote] It is established fact that the rebels had a BUK, and they have Russians who can train them. Furthermore they bragged about shooting a Ukrainian plane down within 10 minutes of the flight going down and subsequently deleted it. The seperatists or their handlers did it