[quote=Omega] None of the claims have been corroborated and because neither side would agree to anything to let an investigation begin by now any substantial evidence is gone so it will be near impossible to prove if it was Russian soldiers in Ukraine or Ukrainian soldiers. [/quote] This isn't a court of law, I am not interested in proving beyond a reasonable doubt anyone's guilt. The preponderance of evidence points towards the rebels or Russians and there does not exist one (read:[I]one[/I]) piece of evidence or scrap of well founded conjecture to suggest the Ukraine gov. did it.