[quote=NarcolepticSailor] Doesn't seem to ring true often enough. I mean, I'm not exactly pleased with the outcome myself nor do I fully understand the reasoning behind it and other actions in the past which went by with little punishment, but just kind of have to press on. [/quote] I mean, even if someone could "win", does that really mean anything? Does winning this actually mean that much? It sure doesn't for me. If I wanted to "win", I would play a "Total War" or "Age of" game.