[quote=So Boerd] Whatever, Kho, keep playing to win by manipulating every nuance of the rules. If debt had interest you'd fall apart tomorrow. Good for you, you found an exploit, and broke R3 realism in so doing. [/quote] What are you on about? It is a fact of history that the Ottoman Empire fell into debt in this period due to increased naval expenditure. Shouldn't be feeling the effects until 1876, and since I'm already a democracy...the consequences have been neutralised. That's the last am saying on the matter.