Unfortunate to see someone depart, Kho. Hopefully the people that were just behind me in the line to join the RP haven't all ran off. [quote=Heyitsjiwon] And yet, you claim "the two nation's governments and citizens hold each other in contempt, and any amount of warmness between them". That's the thing that I'm trying to correct. [/quote] The signing of the treaty did not signify a warming of relations, but an exit from total isolationism. It was a symptom of the Meiji Restoration, not an indicator of Sino-Japanese brotherly love. All nations that are not hermit states have formalized contact with their neighbours, whether their neighbours are their allies, or, in this case, their traditional enemies.