[quote=bigscreech] Ohhh shit china and japan joining the fray, there goes the neighborhood:p [/quote] I may be missing greater context... but... > Backwards ass unmodernized China > Just as well Japan > Destroying Russia Try not to make me laugh. Both states should be catatonically backwards. Japan's a lot closer, but China wasn't really "modern" until the Second World War at least. Even against the awkwardly dead-fished Russian military.