I heard there was someone challenging my throne to egotism, and I had to come see it for mys-- [quote=OutlawTorn]I'm beginning to feel like this community may need me.[/quote] ... [i]Shit[/i]. Well, lets start dissecting the frog. NOTE: Please don't take this as personally offensive, OutlawTorn, I'm simply going to counter your points, not demonize you as a person, or anything else. Still. [youtube]-W6as8oVcuM[/youtube] [quote=OutlawTorn]I'm actively on 2 other forums.[/quote] That's nice. I'm not sure what this is supposed to qualify for. [quote=OutlawTorn]No Pachamac. I'm beginning to feel like this community may need me.[/quote] No. :lol This community needs no particular individual member save perhaps the moderators and administrators to keep the site running in a smooth-ish capacity. You, and me, we're just here to kick back and role play, or post in off-topic, spam, roleplay discussion, articles, contests when MDK reincarnates that... So on and so forth. [quote=OutlawTorn]Like maybe that's why he was so adamant about my coming of all places.[/quote] Or maybe this is just a really chill place with lots of people. [quote=OutlawTorn]Maybe this is a good thing, your feeling put down by my presence aside, of course.[/quote] [youtube]fFyHTU8tg_0[/youtube] [quote=OutlawTorn]I apologize for being fresh out of fucks to give, but it's been a rough month.[/quote] I apologize that your post seems to contradict this statement. [quote=OutlawTorn]Wow!!! I've read your stuff, Pachamac... Slow it down...My quarrel is with those who wrestle with entry level, basic problems, saying stuff like "no one can write a canon character but the creator.">.< I mean that's so stupid it hurts my brain! If you truly believe that, you have no business writing with other people. It's called responsibility.Truly minuscule problems being treated like catastrophes.[/quote] Except that's how that person feels and you can't tell them that they're right or wrong? That is purely a personal preference. The only "stupidity" that could hurt the brain is if said person invaded your thread where you use canon characters and tried to tell you otherwise. Then, yeah, stupid, but your thread, you can deal with them appropriately. Otherwise, there's no such thing as a universal set of rules for the site beyond, you know, the [b]site rules[/b], which are pretty simple. Be Fonz cool, and don't post adult content like pornography. As well, obey the rules for each section, which are pretty damned loose, really. And that's it! [quote=OutlawTorn]Let me say it again, and then you can continue projecting your denial unto me:[/quote] Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod Zod~ [quote=OutlawTorn]You're my hero, HollywoodMole...It must be so hard... and yet you're still here, givin' it your best...*choked up* [/quote] [quote=OutlawTorn]your feeling put down by my presence aside, of course.[/quote] ... Uhh... Captain, in just one page, we have detected an anomaly! It appears to be... Hypocrisy! Damn! Suggestion: If you can't see how your statements are mocking, belittling, and putting other people down... You sincerely need to go revisit basic English. No, I'm not talking about English literature, I'm talking as in... English as a second language. [quote=OutlawTorn]Because what bothers me is weakness and stupidity.In terms you'll grasp: YOU bother me.[/quote] [youtube]FONN-0uoTHI[/youtube] Oh, finally! Some actual juicy content to dismember brutally! [quote=OutlawTorn]I think if I'm bothering you, it's because what I'm saying challenges your comfy little bubble of denial and indecisiveness.[/quote] Fonz. Cool. What about this escapes you, Neo? [quote=OutlawTorn]Several of you actually said no one can play canon characters but the creators. That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard any roleplayer say in 8 years.[/quote] [citation needed] Also, wow, it's that's the dumbest thing you've heard, I'm sorry to say that you've obviously not gotten very far. [quote=OutlawTorn]This makes me wonder how you even hold your own using your own characters. How inconsistent, basic, and awful they must be, if you can't play a character with tons of source material and background, showing you who that character is.[/quote] What? I don't use canon characters. I build my own universes, and play in them. I'd like to imagine my characters, many of which are now outright [b]years[/b] old in real life, function just fine without the need for Naruto or Aragorn or someone else to hold their hand. [quote=OutlawTorn]If you put aside the fact that you hate me and my forward approach, you'll find that in theory, a canon character is easier to play, because it's laid out neatly for you.[/quote] That's not a forward approach. That's something that's been done for centuries... Remakes, you ever heard of them? People have rewritten each other's stories for eons. [b]That doesn't mean everyone is comfortable doing it, or feels they can do it justice[/b]. Just because you sincerely think you can, doesn't mean they do. [quote=OutlawTorn]You have a clear and defined blueprint to guide you every step of the way.So I don't care what you think of me.[/quote] If you didn't care, you wouldn't keep responding. Common Sense: 1. OutlawTorn: 0. Also, you said this before. So you know. When you're ready to actually be remotely consistent, maybe others will find your words credible. [quote=OutlawTorn]Millions of roleplayers around the world will agree with me, because I'm right.[/quote] [citation needed] Also, argumentum ad populum =/= actual evidence. Hell, it's not even that level of fallacy: It's quite literally a [i]theoretical[/i] argumentum ad populum. So, no, sorry. [quote=OutlawTorn]Threads like this wouldn't even exist, if everyone had common sense, some conviction, and a little decisiveness.[/quote] Except no. Human beings will always have reasons to complain about each other in everything they do. For instance, earlier in this thread, I complained about someone constantly flaking out on me, and then raging at me when I moved on without them. It was absolutely irrational behaviour but I don't hate them for it and it made for an amusing story and it was good to blow off steam. [quote=OutlawTorn]You'd have no need to write lengthy speeches about the problems you encountered, because you'd effectively manage them along the way.Do you really have nothing better to do with your RP time than bitch about shit that bothers you?[/quote] Or this is something they do on the side while waiting for others to post, to explore issues and blow steam and have a good laugh and be [i]normal human beings[/i]. [quote=OutlawTorn]I find it difficult to hold a conversation with someone who disregards everything I say to make me look like I'm wrong using vague points which are irrelevant to the core subject material.[/quote] He says as he makes no effort to try and counter argument or even prove this statement. [quote=OutlawTorn]Just go ahead and say I make you uncomfortable because I'm speaking directly to you in this condescending manner. it's not the attitude, but my being right about YOU that bothers you.[/quote] Man, so much need to be right. It's almost like you don't even care about the answer, but more crave the feeling of being correct, and that's why you constantly talk down to people, and display flagrantly disrespectful attitudes. [quote=OutlawTorn]But don't stoop to petty lows, trying to make me look like the idiot. Anyone here with an IQ over 50 knows it too. So I might not be so liberal about speaking on other's behalf.[/quote] [youtube]nGAqOlvp0Gs[/youtube] --- That being said, I think we've all learned a valuable lesson today. None of us are Neo and we should probably all be humble and respectful to each other. Because at the end of the day, this is a forum, where everyone congregates... [b]To play pretend[/b]. With other people. When you offer advice, realize that it's just that: [b]Advice[/b]. It's what you [b]think[/b] you know. And someone else having a different opinion about how to properly go to imaginationland with your friends or with strangers is definitely not worth getting worked up over. It's maybe worth pitying and laughing at like a hyena. Because seriously, lets just focus on having fun. That's the whole point. :lol