Ah yes, I see everything your pointing out and what has been bugging me so much. I honestly may try and finish it just to get the experience I get from it then maybe try it again after I do a few different pieces. As for my anatomy I know what you mean, it hard and you only get better the more you do it and to be honest this is the first time I've had people with so much skin up that close. I have usually got the structure of the bones but the muscle and fat is something I've yet to really focus on. So I'll do some drawings to work on that for next time. Thanks for the help! And yes this was the piece I was working on when we had the oldguild.