[quote=Rare] Why am I giving heated rhetoric statements is because a Brazilian never backs off of a fight or a debate. ;)The emperor isn't a 'strong leader':Yeah, he isn't that 'great' after all. You need to check your President. [/quote] You do realize those stats are after a bloody 5 year civil war, a war with the US a few years before that and before that a numerous years at attempted Spanish reconquest. Also those aren't the updated stats as my nation has progressed quite a bit considering the hand that was dealt me. Bank: -£10,513 Income: +£798 Population: 8,807,812 Population Growth: 0.99% Industry Level: (3/5) Poor Resource Level: (10/10) Failing Education Rate: 30% Prestige: 5 Public Support: 39% Infrastructure Level: (4/5) Poor Army Level: (4/5) Poor [+1 1 turns] Equipment: 32.00% Regulars: 18,000 Conscripts: 0 Navy Level: (1/5) Poor Ironclads: 0 Ships-of-the-Line: 0 Screw Frigates: 0 Sail Frigates: 3 Transport Ships: 1 Nation Ruler: President Benito Pablo Juárez García Played By: bigscreech Almost doubled the income and will be making 1000 quite soon and meeting the terms of the treaty prevented Mexico from defaulting on their debt. Anyway if you are going up state running an already built up state with a roaring economy makes for a great leader then I guess by that logic Warren G. Harding was one of the greatest US presidents.