[quote=The Nexerus] That is a fantasy scenario that has no basis in reality, or the actions of this roleplay. Italy, Germany and the Netherlands only just made peace with France, and took absolutely nothing from them. If King William III was a land-hungry dog, why did he turn Wallonia over to France? [/quote] You guys convinced France that it was a better idea to betray a side that had a good chance of winning, and you're calling what I mentioned a fantasy scenario?