[quote=MrFoxNews] Soooo according to you Wilson the gods of Chaos whom are arguably the most powerful entities in the Galaxy and Certainly in the warp. Are smaller and thus bellow the Supremes notice....? If that's true I highly suggest you rethink your position. the worst thing you can do is underestimate Chaos as not a threat it will definitely bite you in the ass later. [/quote] If the Triarians or any of them are a match, and pose a serious threat that can't just be brushed aside, then yes, the Supremes really are above. They were the first, as was said in the original application, which was accepted. The first race of mortals, and through extended survival and exploration, they rose to a demigod-ish position. A Triarian psionic [or any of the other p-words, I generally refer to the mind-power stuff as 'psionics'] wouldn't be a match for a Supreme psionic. However powerful the Triarian or other might be, only could they prevail through cleverness and ruthlessness. However, Supremes tend to flock about in large numbers, present Equiis visitors excepted. The Supremes are a sort of anti-deity. The Goddess or Chaos or Faust or whoever can't spy on them, unless the Supremes all collectively allowed them to. If there were a small enough amount, then yes, a deity/omnipresent being could spy on them, but forcing their way through the field that surrounds a Supreme would very much likely kill them, or put them in a comatose. The result would have the ship spiral out of control until the VI corrects, and reports back to other ships, which would then pick up the comatose Supremes and never leave their little population centers, which would be like a great cloud of nothing on a radar or sonar scanner for a deity. \ Really, what are you going to do? Approach that giant spinning station-ship floating in a neutral area far enough from everyone to be unclaimed, but close enough to be within Supreme communications range, and then try to shoot them? That is the worst thing you could do. The Supremes don't have a defined territory, except for areas where they have automated platforms, in other parts of the universe! And even then, there really isn't anything they really NEED. They're just kinda hoarding territory that they've killed all sentient life from. They don't have any cities, or stations with people on them. It's on all the Supreme fleet, where Warships are just as much battlecruisers as they are cities. EDIT: ALthough I wouldn't pass up the chance for a good war or engagement. It's been rather dull and boring lately, so I haven't really done anything. And I need the Draconians present if I want to include the white-scale-robed Goddess in the Deity Conflicts.