[quote=Boboclown89] I guess, but I'm not sure, and I tend to make Zaen normally more pain-resistant due to insanity... he just kinda ignroes the pain, but there are a few things that could troture him in other ways... like maybe playing certain sounds/music into his ears while he's tied to a chair? [/quote] I have no problem with him being pain resistant but he still needs to have a way to be punished. If tying him to a chair and playing music is what works best then I will use that. However it might not be the best choice.