[quote=The 42nd Gecko] Personally, I like doing the old "roll down the line" where you don't pick which score goes in which stat, and you have to figure out a character and a class that fits the scores you rolled. [/quote] I have always wanted to try that but nobody ever likes it. [quote=Primal Conundrum] Just saying, point buy is the more fair and balanced system. And with our GM, it wasn't "let's shake things up", it was "If you keep doing the same damn thing over and over I'm going to do something about it". Haste is all well and good until your abuse of it draws the attention of a subset of the Inevitables from Mechanus who have come to stop someone from bending the flow of time. Also not fun contracting a magical illness that accelerates the aging of your character. [/quote] ya I run into similar things. You spam haste all the time, turns out there was either like a caster on the other side ready to counterspell you all day or even something like a spell thief who is going to muck up that plan.