[quote=mdk] They each talked for about 45 minutes (a piece) before they started debating one another, at which point my connection died. From the bits that I saw, Bill Nye won the things he bothered to talk about, and Ham's overall position was more intellectually interesting. [/quote] Yeah, I think one must have called the other out on this one. Anyone who would respect and appreciate Bill Nye would be hesitant to let Ham in, and the reverse is likely just as true. Once again, no expert, and I should watch this later when it's on the internet in full, but my guess is Bill's a little heated if he's digressing.