[quote=Shy] I have no issue with him being a Christian, heck, I'm a Christian. His mistake to me is using the Bible as literal, factual evidence for Creationism without contextualization. [/quote] Exactly. And I don't disagree - but the reaction has been 'Ham thinks Creation, and creation is stupid,' not 'Ham's presentation was flawed in the sense that this piece of data was incorrect.' Bill Nye handled him just fine, with data and facts and shit. Nobody's talking about that though. Idunno. I'm also not really looking for responses either, so there's always that.