I've said my peace here and am only going to reply to Yog because I feel his missed the point of what I was saying, and I wanted to clear that up. And to Arch. Arch, not reading someone's post and then offering them writing advice...look, you've irritated me, so I'm going to drop the attempt at professionalism and just say that's a dick move. I'm familiar with King's On Writing. Not what he said. At all. Minimalist writing is like Hemingway. King wrote The Stand, which is 1141 pages and takes like three hundred of those to get to the action. I'm sorry if you dislike reading wrong posts, but to first not read it and try to refute it shows you being both dismissive and arrogant (to assume you could accurately reply without reading it) and then offer up writing advice is just rude. [quote]you only really need to add fluff if you need to make your product a bit longer or to fill up space, otherwise its best to let the person imagine what things look like[/quote] Imagine what things look like? Are you joking? King writes fiction. Posts like these are non-fiction. Rhetoric is an entirely different beast from writing fiction. Now, to Yog. I never once claimed that Cordelia should avoid the repercussions of her criminal activities. Quite the opposite. You've misunderstood what I said entirely, because I spent the majority of my post questioning whether or not our characters had any real consequences to their actions. That's what this is about. I was pointing out not that Abe and Cordelia should escape the consequences of their actions but that they should be able to suffer through them. So should everyone in the League. However, when the League causes no collateral damage, is an entirely benevolent with no traces of corruption organization, and Abe's character gets shut down and his actions rendered less than pointless, there are no consequences. We don't get to see the innocent people killed by minigun fire as a result of those VTOLs, or the people who died in Abe's attack. We don't get to see the aftereffects of our actions, which is what makes having a character that can do stuff interesting. Yog, being weak to super brawlers is not a weakness. I am weak to people with super strength. Blind kittens are weak to people with super strength. Now kryptonite? I am not weak to kryptonite. Blind kittens are not weak to kryptonite. Superman, who is capable of infinitely more than either I or the kitten is, IS weak to kryptonite. That is a weakness. Saying you have a higher threshold for damage, or even "is jut as durable as a normal human" is not a weakness, because there's nothing hindering you which affects no one else: which is, you know, the weakness. Being stabbed in the heel wouldn't have killed any other soldier (I mean, barring infection and stuff, you know what I mean) BUT Achilles. It is not a weakness if everyone else in the RP, including people without superpowers, has it. That just makes you normal. And saying our characters would've caused problems...that's the point. Conflicts. Resolutions. It's what makes things interesting. I'm not saying that all good characters are one-dimensional, but to be painfully, brutally honest, some of the ones in comics and in a lot of superhero RP's are. There's nothing wrong with being good, but I feel there is something wrong with negating the consequences of doing stuff other than staying within the dotted lines. [quote]So in my opinion, this feels more like a complaint about your character not being allowed to get away with their rude and criminal behavior[/quote] Going to have say this is incorrect. To argue a technicality, Cordelia has not yet done anything illegal in this RP, so I have had nothing to be mad about "not getting away with". And me trying to get away with her being rude? How? I never once tried to wiggle her out of the repercussions of her assholery. That's her character. She's been through a lot of shit and subsequently doesn't take any from anyone. Volt and Sonja pitied her and played to her pride enough to get along with her; other people didn't and that's okay. She's supposed to be a dick, and I wouldn't have complained if any of the characters she was unnecessarily rude to refused her help or were rude back-hell, I think Agnes was plotting to kill her after that bomb thing for one post, I'm cool with that because it's a natural progression of how that would've gone. This isn't about my characters being treated poorly, at all. I didn't want a character who was above the law-Cordelia was pretty obviously below it. Above the law implies vigilante work, a la Abe. Cordelia was just a straight up criminal, albeit a sympathetic one who had the chance to be a serious asset to the League (given that the OP states this plot is going to focus on the gang wars in Chicago and Cordelia would've been helpful with that) Saying Hot Rod almost died doesn't have any bearing, because he didn't. We can't die in this RP. Regardless. There's not really much weight to our actions at that point, which is the whole thing Leonerdo and I have an issue with. I didn't try and excuse her rude behavior or get around the consequences of it-albeit, her time in this RP was too short for her to really witness those consequences, but that's besides the point. Your post doesn't make sense because my character never even got backlash because of it: if you read my post as thoroughly as you claimed, you'd see the part where I listed all the people's actions and consequences...Cordelia's wasn't among them. Abe. This is about what happened to Abe, where he got powerplayed and shut down without a chance to retaliate. This is about the manner in which this RP is run and the professionalism in which things are handled. I think you need to read my post again because you're mistaking where I'm coming from. Didact, I've said all I'm going to say in regards to these issues, and reading your posts, it still doesn't feel like you're grasping what I'm saying. I don't see this going anywhere so I'm going to bow out now and let you guys carry on. If anybody has anything else, you can PM me.