Showing me a diagram of how someone interpreted the words of the Bible does not prove anything about it saying the world being flat with a dome around it. The Hebrew word translated as "firmament" is also capable of being translated as "expanse", and the word used in the description of the "heavens" in said passage is capable of being translated as "sky". This is talking about the creation of the clouds. Besides, we have figured out by now that heaven is not on the top of some cloud, as clouds dissipate. Heaven, for quite some time, has been assumed to be extra-dimensional.

That given, there is still not [b][i]ANYTHING[/i][/b] in the Bible that says anything about the world being flat. If you reference the passages stating "from the four corners of the earth", there are some who hypothesize that this is referring to earth's four tallest mountains. In fact, Job 26:7 says . . . *ahem* . . . let me pull out the old King James Version (that I never use; I prefer HCS Version, but whatever). It says: [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+26%3A7&version=KJV]"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."[/url] This concept was largely unthought of until people began circumnavigating the world.

The analogy of the little ball in a vacuum was not to be an analogy to the earth's biosphere, but to the "Big Bang Theory". Seriously, if you try that experiment, nothing will ever happen. Not on its own. Say we throw some dust in that empty space. Will it gravitate together and form a planet? Nope. It'll just stay floating dust, incapable of anything. And we've even given it more to go off of than what the universe supposedly had in the first place: dust AND time. Therefore, how is evolution possible? You haven't found the fur of these dinos that supposedly evolved into birdies. You've found flying dinosaurs that you claim are your "missing link." Excellent, but there are still some problems.

1) If we evolved from monkeys like what evolution is taught, then why is our DNA closer to that of a mouse?
2) If we evolved from monkeys and birds from dinosaurs, then why are there still monkeys but not dinosaurs?
3) If what you are saying is true, then how did fossils form? Because the ONLY force capable of burying dinosaurs alive and forming fossils would be the flood. Honestly, try to form a GENUINE fossil on your own. Don't carve it or make some indention on a piece of clay like you do in elementary school. Seriously sit down with an animals skeleton and lots of dirt and see if you can get that to form a fossil. A fossil has to be formed quickly, not over an extended period of time, under massive amounts of pressure which would not be available any other way.

[quote]Also, I'd like to add that I've studied the Bible for myself - probably more rigorously than you have. Just saying.[/quote]
If this is the case then I would expect you to believe. After all, there are at least seven witnesses whose accounts are given in the Bible (and at least two other written accounts that I can think of that weren't included in the Bible) as those who were eyewitnesses to Jesus' existence that I can think of, yet not one account is given being a witness to evolution.

And I would greatly appreciate it if people would please avoid cursing in this thread. Thank you.

Honestly, if people would open up their eyes, they'd see that the only thing the Bible disproves in science is the "Theory of Evolution", and all that stuff that says the earth is millions of years old. Notice the word "Theory". Key word there. But the Big Bang? It was God's voice. See discussion 2 for more on the topic of the Bible relating to science. It's not a hindrance to science. If people would accept what it says, they'd realize that the Bible actually STRENGTHENS science.

If we think about the world being created in the sense of what the Bible says, we don't have to worry about the silliness of something like a temperature snap or membranes touching and forming the universe. Besides, without matter, isn't it impossible for temperature to exist? And if time didn't exist when the Big Bang happened, then how could membranes move? Time is defined by movement, and if there was no time, then there was no movement, and the membranes would have have to have begun touching each other, and that's a paradox, because if something came from these membranes, then where'd the membranes come from? Are they living? Otherwise how would they have been set in motion?

See, the Bible tells us that God created through speaking, all except the humans made in His image, which He molded with His hands from the dirt of the earth. If he [b]spoke[/b] it into existence, and the Bible describes God's voice as being like a multitude or like thunder, would you not imagine that His speaking would essentially be a "Big Bang"? :brow

Anyway, no point in beating a dead horse. I just ask that if you do not believe as I that you not enter this place using foul language that we wouldn't want young kids saying, so why should we use the same language?

Also, I will be describing soon how Biblical prophecy is coming true. Don't believe me? Read about the Four Horsemen (starting in Revelation 6:1) and the Olivet Prophecy (starting in Matthew 24:3). These signs are here. All of them, rather than just some. And you mean to say that the Bible doesn't have any legitimacy? Earthquakes, wars, false prophets claiming to be the returned Jesus or a Messiah. They're here. Killing by plague? Ebola. Don't know what it does? Rots you alive and turns your innards to soup. Not fun. Killing by the beasts of the earth? How about the recent rising of shark attacks and brown recluse bites? Not in the sense you'd think, but they're still scientifically in the Animal Kingdom, correct? Disrupted peace? Flip on the news. Crime is on the rise. 'Nuff said.

How much more do I have to describe? I hope I've gotten my point across. This stuff's real, and it's happening. Just know that when Jesus returns, though we do not know the day or the hour, it WILL BE MADE KNOWN. All the sources of light in the sky will fall dark and the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the night. But by then, it will be too late for the inhabitants of the earth who have not followed Jesus. Then in an instant the vials will be poured out, and these are not fun. The earth will be destroyed by the presence of Jesus with the vial/bowl judgments, as the Bible says that heaven and earth fled from His presence. Then a New Heaven and a New Earth will be made and those taken at the seventh trumpet will reign for 1,000 years, during which those who refused to repent will live out their sentence in the lake of fire.

Then, Satan is released and the second resurrection occurs, during which the people who participated in the first resurrection will be immune to the tests of Satan, but those who endured their sentence in the lake of fire will face his trials, but this is their final chance, from what I have interpreted. Don't be fooled, though. Despite there being a second chance, I doubt it will be as easy as the life we are given now. God is gracious, but once you've seen His power for yourself, He allows the testing to understand who will turn away from their sin and love Him. Those who fail this final test are, to the best of my knowledge, returned to the lake of fire, or hell, which, despite what the movies will portray, is no party, unless you enjoy your limbs being ripped off and being in a continual state of having an asthma attack and your chest being ripped open and worms burrowing inside your flesh. Yeah, that's what happens when you follow in Satan's footsteps and curse God. You follow that devil right into the lake of fire, and trust me, God doesn't like to see people have to endure that. After all, it is not God's will that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).