[quote=So Boerd] If the preponderance of evidence is indicative of the truth, then I hope we have more Ferguson cases (That officers successfully defend themselves, not more kids bum rush cops) [/quote] The two autopsy reports do not yield the same results. Additionally, the witness reports do not yield identical stories. While they may deviate slightly due to a degree of error in the witness' memory, the conflicting accounts shouldn't be this skewed. The recent addition to the evidence pool--an audio recording detailing the police officer firing his weapon several times, stopping, and then suddenly firing again--only raises more questions about what went on that night. My suspicion? Someone is lying---or at least telling half-truths. Or perhaps there just isn't enough material to go off of. Regardless, I suggest you wait until the trial is done and over with before you go and past judgement on this murder case. There's no way you can literally sit here, with a straight face and utter confidence in your own knowledge about this ordeal, and tell anyone in this thread that you know for a fact that the police officer was justified in his actions and that the victim was solely responsible for his own death. Judging from your old posts regarding the Trayvon Martin case back on Old Guild, you have a knack for immediately siding with shooters in these cases. I don't know why that is. [quote=Omega] is that based on UK, US, or mixed definitions for violent crime?"In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force."murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault are the tracked crimes for the FBI."Violent crimes are those where the victim is intentionally stabbed, punched, kicked, pushed, jostled, etc. or threatened with violence whether or not there is any injury"In the UK they do not track the specific offenses as much. This means that something in the US like simple assault would not be considered a violent crime while in the UK it would be.Your citation of the UK being more violent is a common misconception based on using the same term in two places with slightly different meaning that greatly alter the information provided. [/quote] You should have been more clear on what type of violence you were talking about. If you were strictly talking about gun violence and only gun violence, then my previous point regarding gun laws in the UK and the US still stands. Your post only highlights the impossibility of comparing US violent crime rates against UK violent crime rates because neither nation classifies them in the same manner. As such, I'm still wondering how turning US police departments into stripped-down National Guard bases is going to really solve anything.