[quote=RolePlayerRoxas] As someone who was insane enough to level grind everyone in P3 to level 99 at the very beginning of the game (woo bonus dungeon), the initial Personas have somewhat lower stats, and stop learning stuff around level 50 or so. Then, once the story evolves them, they get stat boosts and learnt he rest of the moves they would have learned from leveling the new Persona. Koromaru and Shinji are exceptions for... obvious reasons.[/quote] That's actually cool to know. I get the lower stats, but for some reason the fact that their initial personas don't get all of their moves weirds me out. What happens if you're past the levels you learn the moves and then you get your ultimate persona? Still though, I am excrutiatingly confident that P4's initial personas have the same moves learned as their ultimate personas, for the obvious reason that everyone has a social link and can therefore not get the ultimate persona.